(2014-12-09, 06:07 AM)Rakes Wrote: [ -> ]Woah wow wow hold up there buddy.
First off all, most people who breaks stuff doesn't care enough to make a whole blog about it.
Secondly, spam the server via tcp and you'll see that VAC will end up dropping every single tcp packet it gets for a while, there's multiple ways to break it out having to spoof.
Secondly, Ovh is one of the worst companies around imo ranked next to GoDaddy, they have a horrible network, horrible support, horrible hardware support.
Lets start with the network, you can actually google this.. Packet loss, Ovh is the pure definition of it because they have it so often and for a longer period of times many times up to 90% of packets gets lost.
Support, well there is hardly any tbh.
Hardware support, if something breaks you're going to pay for the time that the dedicated server sits there doing nothing and they're going to drag the time out even thought they can have it fixed by about 30 minutes of it being reported as they have quite a lot of backup hardware.
What about being slow + down for over 6 hours due to them flipping their network upside down quite often?
Woah wow wow hold up there buddy. I can't confirm any of these claims.
If there were an easy way to take OVH servers down for longer than the time it takes for VAC to kick in, it would make its rounds. People are like that, always bragging about such things and/or trying to sell the concept of the attack or their botnets for DDoS attacks. OVH is still (in my opinion) the most asked for server hoster in that regard, e.g. "Can it take down a server at OVH?" is one of the first questions, next to "does this get past Cloudflare? (as much or little sense such questions may make)". They are not indestructible or invulnerable, but for a forum they are more than good enough as a host to prevent DDoS attackers from taking you down for more than a few minutes at a time. If you go with their business server line at ovh directly, you can also permanently enable the VAC protection, which even further reduces the impact that troublesome people with too much pocketmoney can have on you.
I personally had a small dedicated server with ovh in north america for private projects over a year ago and after a hardware fault (hard drive problems) support was actually pretty fast and good back then. We never had any hardware problems with the "big" server, so can't really say anything about support with that in case of hardware faults. As far as I know you get the support that you paid for, which is written in the contract (what? when? who?).
Never had network problems, never had problems with packet loss, as far as I know. I can't say anything about that tcp connection dropping claim of yours in case of tcp floods. I never noticed any problems like that and even if there were any, it wouldn't matter for a forum if for a short time no new connection would be accepted, as most people will spend a minute or two reading a page before attempting to load another page. I humored you and actually googled "ovh packet loss". Came up with two forum entries which turned out to be problems of the ISP of those users and one thread about network problems with OVH Canada in November.
We are hosted in France, maybe the problems you described happen at another datacenter of OVH? I never had a "gaming server" with them, so can't say anything about that in case of latency, stability etc.
In the last year we had no downtimes due to technical problems of OVH, no "6 hour outtimes due to them flipping their network upside down quite often". That's all I can say about that. If you had different experiences, I'm sorry. But as I said, I have nothing to complain about so far (except that their dashboard doesn't have a lot of options for configurations for "cheaper" lines of servers in Europe).
All I can offer is my personal experience, which has been so far very good with ovh when it comes to hosting of medium-sized forums and a few websites plus a view other services like Teamspeak. I just wanted to give advice about how there are companies that can handle huge DDoS attacks and that people should search for them. I never intended this to be a "OVH is great"-Conversation and intentionally omitted the name of the company in previous comments.
But as some people did have to bring up the topic, I wanted to clarify some things. Also, I still would like to know about those attacks that are bypassing OVHs protection for more than seconds/few minutes and are not application layer, so my PN box is waiting. Beyond that, I won't answer to anymore comments about OVH, as this thread has gone offtopic long enough.
