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(2012-04-15, 02:15 PM)euantor Wrote: but I wasn't a massive fan of the directory structure as an example

/models
/views
/controllers

that's a pretty standard structure for a Model-View-Controller framework Smile
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(2012-04-15, 03:12 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 02:15 PM)euantor Wrote: but I wasn't a massive fan of the directory structure as an example

/models
/views
/controllers

that's a pretty standard structure for a Model-View-Controller framework Smile
Look at the blog demo with Yii and still saying to me that Yii it's easy....
Just see all the code you have in the blog demo (made by the creators of Yii..) and think the horrible code will have a big forum system then...
Sorry bad english
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(2012-04-15, 03:12 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 02:15 PM)euantor Wrote: but I wasn't a massive fan of the directory structure as an example

/models
/views
/controllers

that's a pretty standard structure for a Model-View-Controller framework Smile

You missed a few:

/protected
--/commands
--/components
--/config
--/controllers
--/data
--/extensions
--/messages
--/models
--/...

Things might have changed since I last tried it (about a year back), but I wasn't all that impressed when I did. I did vow to give it a fair try recently, but I haven't had a chance to.
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(2012-04-15, 03:28 PM)Night Wrote: Look at the blog demo with Yii and still saying to me that Yii it's easy....
Just see all the code you have in the blog demo (made by the creators of Yii..) and think the horrible code will have a big forum system then...
Sorry bad english

If you ever used a MVC framework that code is pretty easy to understand, if you never used a MVC framework it's just a matter of habit.

(2012-04-15, 03:46 PM)euantor Wrote: You missed a few:

/protected
--/commands
--/components
--/config
--/controllers
--/data
--/extensions
--/messages
--/models
--/...

Things might have changed since I last tried it (about a year back), but I wasn't all that impressed when I did. I did vow to give it a fair try recently, but I haven't had a chance to.

/models /views /controllers are the main ones, other dirs are there for a good reason http://www.yiiframework.com/doc/guide/1....#directory what's wrong with this structure?
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(2012-04-15, 05:48 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 03:28 PM)Night Wrote: Look at the blog demo with Yii and still saying to me that Yii it's easy....
Just see all the code you have in the blog demo (made by the creators of Yii..) and think the horrible code will have a big forum system then...
Sorry bad english

If you ever used a MVC framework that code is pretty easy to understand, if you never used a MVC framework it's just a matter of habit.
I've used codeigniter, fuelphp, silex and laravel and all of them are better than Yii (including silex that is a mini-framework)...
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(2012-04-15, 05:57 PM)Night Wrote: I've used codeigniter, fuelphp, silex and laravel and all of them are better than Yii (including silex that is a mini-framework)...

Arguments?

I tried many php frameworks too and Yii is my favorite one.

Some history: the creator of Yii previously created another php framework (PRADO) which was the winner of the Zend PHP5 Contest when PHP5 was released. He definitely knows what he does.
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(2012-04-12, 12:13 AM)Nathan Malcolm Wrote:
(2012-04-11, 11:49 PM)Gypaete Wrote: Seriously, I think of idiots waiting for Yii 2.0, when they can try other Frameworks and see how it goes. And we expect more ..

Who said we haven't tried any other frameworks? We didn't just randomly pick Yii...

Sorry, my fault for criticizing without knowing.

(2012-04-12, 12:41 AM)Josh H. Wrote: There are times when I wish we had red rep in the MyBB community (here). The post you quoted, Nathan, was deserving.

You really deserve red reputation. Nathan has responded me with the known respect, + Rep.

(2012-04-12, 07:40 AM)Tomm M Wrote:
(2012-04-11, 11:49 PM)Gypaete Wrote: Seriously, I think of idiots waiting for Yii 2.0, when they can try other Frameworks and see how it goes. And we expect more ..

Seriously we can afford to wait as we're working on 1.8. Yii 2 is a promising framework for MyBB.

I still think as @Night, which is there are better Frameworks than Yii.

(2012-04-12, 09:45 AM)TheGarfield Wrote: Yii isn't that famous, I think more of Symfony or Zend framework. But then it's up to the developers.

A framework is meant to organize and simplify big tasks and projects. At the end no matter what framework you use, we will get the same results (tho, some frameworks work faster than others).

If MyBB used Symfony or Zend. MyBB go a long way as CMS.

Precisely this is why I do not like Yii, is slow. And MyBB is famous for its speed, is not it?

(2012-04-12, 09:56 AM)Tomm M Wrote: Yii isn't famous, but personally I found it a much easier transition between 1.x and 2.x than using any other framework.

(2012-04-12, 03:40 PM)Night Wrote:
(2012-04-11, 11:49 PM)Gypaete Wrote: Seriously, I think of idiots waiting for Yii 2.0, when they can try other Frameworks and see how it goes. And we expect more ..
This is a serious conversation please, use the correct language

(2012-04-12, 09:45 AM)TheGarfield Wrote: Yii isn't that famous, I think more of Symfony or Zend framework. But then it's up to the developers.

A framework is meant to organize and simplify big tasks and projects. At the end no matter what framework you use, we will get the same results (tho, some frameworks work faster than others).
The problem isn't that famous is the framework, the thing is how light, clean and easy tu use it's for example, Symfony is really famous but I think if I need a VPS to develop a web page then I will never use it, the same thing with zend

(2012-04-12, 09:56 AM)Tomm M Wrote: Yii isn't famous, but personally I found it a much easier transition between 1.x and 2.x than using any other framework.
Look at my previous quote

Some code of Yii
$this->widget('zii.widgets.grid.CGridView', array(
     'id'=>'user-grid',
     'dataProvider'=>$model->search(),
     'filter'=>$model,
     'columns'=>array(
         'id',
         'username',
         'password',
         'email',
          array('class'=>'CButtonColumn'),
      ))
);
Soo....

Soo..

(2012-04-15, 05:57 PM)Night Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 05:48 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 03:28 PM)Night Wrote: Look at the blog demo with Yii and still saying to me that Yii it's easy....
Just see all the code you have in the blog demo (made by the creators of Yii..) and think the horrible code will have a big forum system then...
Sorry bad english

If you ever used a MVC framework that code is pretty easy to understand, if you never used a MVC framework it's just a matter of habit.
I've used codeigniter, fuelphp, silex and laravel and all of them are better than Yii (including silex that is a mini-framework)...

I too have been there Frameworks and I have nothing more to say, to give you the reason.

(2012-04-15, 06:54 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 05:57 PM)Night Wrote: I've used codeigniter, fuelphp, silex and laravel and all of them are better than Yii (including silex that is a mini-framework)...

Arguments?

I tried many php frameworks too and Yii is my favorite one.

Some history: the creator of Yii previously created another php framework (PRADO) which was the winner of the Zend PHP5 Contest when PHP5 was released. He definitely knows what he does.

With Yii does not show it.
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(2012-04-15, 05:48 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 03:46 PM)euantor Wrote: You missed a few:

/protected
--/commands
--/components
--/config
--/controllers
--/data
--/extensions
--/messages
--/models
--/...

Things might have changed since I last tried it (about a year back), but I wasn't all that impressed when I did. I did vow to give it a fair try recently, but I haven't had a chance to.

/models /views /controllers are the main ones, other dirs are there for a good reason http://www.yiiframework.com/doc/guide/1....#directory what's wrong with this structure?

There's nothing particularly wrong with it - I just preferred the structure of FuelPHP and CodeIgniter. As I said, I'm willing to learn Yii as it is obviously a powerful framework (one only has to look at some of the applications built on it to see that - case in point: Chive). I just need to find the time to sit down and get used to it. I'm sure Yii 2.0 will bring vast improvements too.

Also, just a friendly warning to everybody posting here: don't let this discussion get out of hand. I'm all for discussion, but let's make sure it doesn't turn into an argument as it seems it could.
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(2012-04-15, 08:08 PM)euantor Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 05:48 PM)ekerazha Wrote:
(2012-04-15, 03:46 PM)euantor Wrote: You missed a few:

/protected
--/commands
--/components
--/config
--/controllers
--/data
--/extensions
--/messages
--/models
--/...

Things might have changed since I last tried it (about a year back), but I wasn't all that impressed when I did. I did vow to give it a fair try recently, but I haven't had a chance to.

/models /views /controllers are the main ones, other dirs are there for a good reason http://www.yiiframework.com/doc/guide/1....#directory what's wrong with this structure?

There's nothing particularly wrong with it - I just preferred the structure of FuelPHP and CodeIgniter. As I said, I'm willing to learn Yii as it is obviously a powerful framework (one only has to look at some of the applications built on it to see that - case in point: Chive). I just need to find the time to sit down and get used to it. I'm sure Yii 2.0 will bring vast improvements too.

Also, just a friendly warning to everybody posting here: don't let this discussion get out of hand. I'm all for discussion, but let's make sure it doesn't turn into an argument as it seems it could.

Clearly learn Yii touch me, to support. I love to support MyBB and is one of the things I love to do.

Even though I hate Yii, I will .. Even if they choose another Framework, I will weep with joy.

And quiet, everything was my fault and I apologize. Smile

One suggestion: I wish we had a mobile version. Since the smarthphones lately used more. Greetings!
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As a new easter egg can we add /podium ? As part of MyBB's history. Big Grin
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