Does MyBB have future?
Quote:Remember those developers you were going to get to contribute to MyBB 1.9? Yeah, so do I. I've yet to see any contribution from them whatsoever...

I used those developers to focus on my own site. We're responsive and have created dozens of plugins and features in less than a year. If I knew for a fact that the work done on my site would be similar to the goals of MyBB I'd simply have my dev (who is paid btw) work on the MyBB project and update my site accordingly. Unfortunately it's clear MyBB wants to do things like add TWIG and make changes that will break the current work but are also difficult to collaborate with at this time. Basically Justin is doing all the template work and we wait on him, am I correct?

And last time I contributed myself was to report an exploit. I was chastised for posting it at the Github so other admins could fix it. So that was very disheartening for me. The policy to hide reported exploits and vulnerabilities is a terrible one. It should be rewritten. It's another instance where the MyBB team is not up to date imho with the needs of the community and it's only thinking of themselves and not the many admins using the product.

Quote:It's always nice to see complaints, definitely makes the team feel even more inclined to pour their free time into something for no reward.

I offered a reward to the team. It proved to have no results. That was in June.
https://community.mybb.com/thread-218367.html

So reward, no reward, complaints, no complaints, what does it matter if in the end the team just goes at a pace the community has no control over and we're told to just wait. And we do wait. And then wait more....and more...you get the idea. Go read that thread btw..Eric says that you were just waiting for Justin to convert the theme to Twig and the theme was done. So months go by and we're all just waiting for this responsive theme so our websites can be updated to usefullness in the modern internet world.

Your words about 1.9...

Euan T Wrote:Personally I feel that we have a good chance of having a beta ready by the end of August/the start of September.

From a 60 day expectation to a 6 month wait and we still don't really have much of an expectation for a date. If you told us again that you think it's realistically a "good chance" of a beta in a couple months do you think anyone here would be excited? The mood now is "believe it when I can download it", from the community.

Quote:I know we're slow. Everybody else on the team knows we're low. If I could wave a magic wand and release 1.9 tomorrow, don't you think I would?

The admission of the problem is a first step in solving it. Or do you think the pace is reasoanble and that the waiting is acceptable? Because I have a feeling you might tell us something like "it is what it is". IMHO this should be solved with clear and realistic goals for the software and a stronger focus. The dropping of 2.0 was a great start. The new 1.9x thread roadmap was pretty good.

https://community.mybb.com/thread-215212.html

Maybe if you have people on the team not pulling their weight you need to replace them. I don't have an insider information to how the team is run or by whom but from the outside it appears like people are on the team in name only. A good portion of the 1.9x roadmap could be banged out in a matter of weeks if given the appropriate amount of attention and commitment.

Quote:I honestly don't know what we can do to speed things up.

Complain to the project manager about the slow pace.

Quote:All of the active members of the development and SQA team hold down full time jobs and are distributed across several different timezones. Most of us are also juggling several other MyBB tasks like responding to the several daily emails we receive to the MyBB email address(es).

Then find people who have the time and willingness to commit to get MyBB into a place it should be. Far too long the project has been okay with this slow-lime pace like a turtle and telling the community to just wait. WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT is all we read. If you don't think everyone is tired of that you are completely out of touch with the needs of the admins who run the MyBB software. NO ONE HAS ANY PATIENCE LEFT. That's just reality in your face.

Quote:I will always welcome constructive input, and would definitely welcome contributions in the form of code and testing any day of the week.

Aren't we waiting on 1.9x templates to be converted to TWIG for coding? The Github doesn't seem to have any 1.9x repo. I assume it's private still.

From Github "The develop/* branches contain the source code of future branches of MyBB under development."...so where is it?

Quote:But threads like these never fail to make me feel less motivated to continue working on a project I've poured the last decade into.

Nor is it pleasant for those running MyBB who have relied on the software for over a decade. I don't want to bash the team or the project but c'mon. You must know that what's happening isn't cool. We're the outsiders. We're not on the team. The project is on Github and it's open source but it doesn't ever feel like it's a community project because us outsiders are not privy to the private communications of the team. We don't really know how it's run. We are often not part of the decision making. We're just told what you're doing. Then we're told to wait.

Euan, I know you're a solid coder. Looking at the Forum Team...who is the actual project manager right now? Could it be the lack of project management leadership is the cause for all these problems?
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Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-11, 07:50 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-11, 07:57 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-11, 08:12 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-11, 08:26 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-11, 08:48 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Whiteneo - 2017-12-11, 11:02 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-15, 07:49 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by kawaii - 2017-12-15, 07:56 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by TaylorCTU - 2017-12-12, 12:26 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by zag - 2017-12-12, 02:25 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-12, 06:41 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2017-12-14, 03:23 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Sector - 2017-12-15, 09:04 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by frostschutz - 2017-12-15, 01:09 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by YeahIamBlond - 2017-12-15, 01:32 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-15, 06:08 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2017-12-15, 02:25 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-15, 06:18 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2017-12-15, 06:24 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by VinnyVideo - 2017-12-15, 06:35 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-15, 07:00 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Wildcard - 2017-12-15, 09:31 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-15, 09:40 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-16, 11:14 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-16, 11:59 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by andrewjs18 - 2017-12-17, 12:22 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-17, 10:59 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-17, 12:13 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-17, 01:47 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-17, 02:06 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-17, 02:21 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-17, 02:36 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-17, 02:44 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-18, 12:57 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-18, 01:47 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by amanda_2011 - 2017-12-18, 07:48 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-18, 03:30 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2017-12-18, 03:51 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-18, 07:18 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by NeedReds - 2020-04-23, 11:22 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2017-12-18, 07:25 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-18, 07:48 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-18, 11:16 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by andrewjs18 - 2017-12-19, 12:28 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2017-12-18, 08:21 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-18, 08:29 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by amanda_2011 - 2017-12-18, 08:57 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-19, 04:24 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-19, 08:03 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-19, 11:00 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-20, 07:58 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Tactrus - 2017-12-19, 04:48 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2017-12-19, 11:31 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Tactrus - 2017-12-20, 11:35 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by andrewjs18 - 2017-12-21, 08:30 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by kawaii - 2017-12-21, 08:57 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Dexxa - 2017-12-21, 03:16 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-21, 10:42 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2017-12-21, 05:18 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-22, 07:37 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-22, 08:36 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Livewire - 2017-12-22, 12:07 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-22, 09:20 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Justin - 2017-12-22, 12:42 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-22, 06:06 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-22, 07:48 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Justin - 2017-12-22, 09:04 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Tactrus - 2017-12-22, 09:56 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-22, 10:54 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ashley1 - 2017-12-22, 11:25 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by kawaii - 2017-12-22, 11:07 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-22, 11:09 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2017-12-23, 06:54 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Robbie626 - 2017-12-23, 07:11 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2017-12-23, 07:27 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by marcgo15 - 2017-12-25, 07:40 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Sector - 2017-12-23, 08:28 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by iagovar - 2017-12-26, 11:40 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by s3_gunzel - 2017-12-27, 12:09 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2017-12-23, 07:43 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Justin - 2017-12-27, 01:16 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by mrl586 - 2018-01-07, 08:05 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2018-01-06, 09:17 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Justin - 2018-01-07, 08:27 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-01-07, 08:39 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2018-01-07, 09:23 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Sharree - 2018-01-07, 09:54 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Justin - 2018-01-07, 10:28 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2018-01-07, 10:59 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by ScarletWavez - 2018-01-08, 02:52 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by darkhorus - 2018-01-10, 06:07 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2018-01-10, 07:54 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by darkhorus - 2018-01-11, 05:08 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by andrewjs18 - 2018-01-15, 06:54 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by darkhorus - 2018-01-15, 01:42 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Corey H - 2018-01-15, 08:40 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-01-15, 09:01 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2018-01-16, 11:09 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by kawaii - 2018-01-16, 11:18 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-01-16, 03:21 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by DiegoPino - 2018-01-15, 09:58 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2018-01-16, 06:31 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by html_nerd - 2018-01-17, 01:54 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-01-16, 07:31 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Justin - 2018-01-17, 02:47 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2018-01-17, 06:32 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by html_nerd - 2018-01-17, 06:52 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-01-17, 08:05 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-01-17, 06:47 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Majcon - 2018-01-20, 01:21 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by lomazzo - 2018-01-20, 02:07 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by dragonexpert - 2018-02-07, 04:15 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Ikerepc - 2018-02-07, 10:05 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Zaqre - 2018-07-28, 10:27 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by /r/ - 2018-07-29, 04:35 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Nasyr - 2018-10-23, 10:12 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Eldenroot - 2018-07-30, 03:52 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by erich199 - 2018-12-21, 06:51 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Zeitgeist - 2018-12-22, 05:27 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Michael2014 - 2018-12-22, 05:36 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by CloudyBright - 2019-02-16, 03:28 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Sector - 2019-01-14, 06:29 PM
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RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Wildcard - 2019-02-17, 11:41 PM
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RE: Does MyBB have future? - by codedude - 2019-02-18, 11:42 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by labrocca - 2019-02-18, 04:25 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by someoneBig - 2019-02-18, 08:08 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2019-02-18, 08:19 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2019-02-18, 08:15 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by s3_gunzel - 2019-02-18, 09:14 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Devilshakerz - 2019-02-18, 10:40 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2019-02-18, 10:43 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by someoneBig - 2019-02-18, 08:40 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Nathan Malcolm - 2019-02-19, 04:07 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by s3_gunzel - 2019-02-19, 05:13 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Euan T - 2019-02-19, 07:37 PM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by s3_gunzel - 2020-04-24, 12:09 AM
RE: Does MyBB have future? - by DiegoD - 2020-05-30, 07:03 PM
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RE: Does MyBB have future? - by DiegoPino - 2020-05-31, 01:54 PM
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RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Serpius - 2020-06-28, 01:53 AM
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RE: Does MyBB have future? - by Darth Apple - 2020-06-28, 02:08 AM
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RE: Does MyBB have future? - by s3_gunzel - 2020-06-29, 02:46 AM
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