2012-05-02, 10:49 AM
OH MY! I didn't mean to cause a framework war! Sorry Folks that is NOT my intention. Just wanted to know if Yii was still being considered or not and Tomm M just answered that above.
I'm going to agree with Tomm M not because he is the dev but rather because of the points he has brought up.
A few months back I researched several frameworks. To be honest Yii wasn't my first choice. FuelPhp, symfony2 and Laravel really had my interest. Symfony ... well ... better than zend is all I'm gonna say
Fuelphp and Laravel were just too young for me and that stopped me from pulling the trigger.
CI ... hmmm ... very difficult. Lots of good things going for it but to be honest, I just didn't see what they had lined up for at least php5.3.
I kept coming back to a similar answer, Yii. It's not as "hard" to learn as symphony or Zend and it is just advanced enough to sit above several other "easier" frameworks. Hard and Easy are very objective words
But, the above evaluation was for my own personal use.
Yii, does come off as being bloated, wordy and memory hungry but in reality, it's not really that bad and compares favorably to most other frameworks.
One thing I really have to say is that the Yii community is very active, helpful and there is just a huge amount of activity. I check in to the latest posts through out the day and night. And there is always something new! However, remember statistics is just that
As for the comments about frameworks not eating their own dog food!
Totally agree! Lol, that is probably one of my first posts at Yii!
But, you have to admit that you have 2 choices:
Focus on what your core is
OR
Spread yourself between various projects
Obvious choice for me. And this is why I'm posting here.
I tried to convince FluxxBB to go to an outside framework. Even offered to bring a small team in to help implement Yii. But I keep getting the strong feeling that NIH and most people's lack of understanding why an outside framework is good has basically stalled that conversation. Thus why I posted here, to put feelers out.
Yes, it is true that you are at the mercy of the outside framework team but so are all the iOS, Android, Windows, etc ... developers. Like Tomm M said, end uses really don't know or just don't care what is powering their stuff as long as it works and does the job.
I'm not sure when Yii 2 is coming but I'm going to say that you might as well as wait for Christmas at the same time.
Which leads me to the comment about if it is so good why redo it?
Nothing is that good that couldn't use some more love.
Yii 1.x.x is actually Yii 2.x.x in disguise. It started as Prado.
php has moved a long way from back when it was basically a few bash scripts and then later called php/fi.
Although, it sounds like I'm a Yii fanboy, I'm not trying to convince anybody why it should be used or not. There are way too many points that need to be considered!
Sorry if I ruffled any feathers
I'm going to agree with Tomm M not because he is the dev but rather because of the points he has brought up.
A few months back I researched several frameworks. To be honest Yii wasn't my first choice. FuelPhp, symfony2 and Laravel really had my interest. Symfony ... well ... better than zend is all I'm gonna say
Fuelphp and Laravel were just too young for me and that stopped me from pulling the trigger.CI ... hmmm ... very difficult. Lots of good things going for it but to be honest, I just didn't see what they had lined up for at least php5.3.
I kept coming back to a similar answer, Yii. It's not as "hard" to learn as symphony or Zend and it is just advanced enough to sit above several other "easier" frameworks. Hard and Easy are very objective words
But, the above evaluation was for my own personal use.
Yii, does come off as being bloated, wordy and memory hungry but in reality, it's not really that bad and compares favorably to most other frameworks.
One thing I really have to say is that the Yii community is very active, helpful and there is just a huge amount of activity. I check in to the latest posts through out the day and night. And there is always something new! However, remember statistics is just that
As for the comments about frameworks not eating their own dog food!
Totally agree! Lol, that is probably one of my first posts at Yii!
But, you have to admit that you have 2 choices:
Focus on what your core is
OR
Spread yourself between various projects
Obvious choice for me. And this is why I'm posting here.
I tried to convince FluxxBB to go to an outside framework. Even offered to bring a small team in to help implement Yii. But I keep getting the strong feeling that NIH and most people's lack of understanding why an outside framework is good has basically stalled that conversation. Thus why I posted here, to put feelers out.
Yes, it is true that you are at the mercy of the outside framework team but so are all the iOS, Android, Windows, etc ... developers. Like Tomm M said, end uses really don't know or just don't care what is powering their stuff as long as it works and does the job.
I'm not sure when Yii 2 is coming but I'm going to say that you might as well as wait for Christmas at the same time.
Which leads me to the comment about if it is so good why redo it?
Nothing is that good that couldn't use some more love.
Yii 1.x.x is actually Yii 2.x.x in disguise. It started as Prado.
php has moved a long way from back when it was basically a few bash scripts and then later called php/fi.
Although, it sounds like I'm a Yii fanboy, I'm not trying to convince anybody why it should be used or not. There are way too many points that need to be considered!
Sorry if I ruffled any feathers
