Anyways, I really appreciate that you made this a lot more simplified for me...but it really didn't change <navigation> problem. Are you understanding what I'm referring to or did I explain wrong?

EDIT: Solved, what I did was I created a second template called headertemplate, pasted in all of the rest of the header onto it, and included that template in the header. I then created a headersite template that included the top bit as well and didn't have the lines I didn't want. I then included that through my site. Smile
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