* x_Stricken_x is stuck with internet that will never touch 1MB download or upload, and with a limit
* x_Stricken_x states that's the only reason he hates living in the hills
* Lo. says he lives in the hills, and has multiple good lines.
* Lo. thinks Tom must really live out there.
* Nathan Malcolm says Zend Framework.
* Nathan Malcolm is using it for one of his projects.
* Nathan Malcolm finds it's advanced, but complete.
* x_Stricken_x finds it to be used by too many projects
* Nathan Malcolm doesn't see a problem with that.
* Nathan Malcolm says it's a great framework, if you know how to use it effectively.
* Lo. originally though Malcom meant Optimizer.