Quote:Where did I say Copyright? All that it implies is that FFW has the right to take My Work, and use it as she wishes.
And what do you think this means?
Quote:No it doesn't, it simply implies that what I did is not available to those who would use the work, and pass it off as their own, in part or as a whole.
You're expressing copyright.
Quote:The attitude of the Plug-In makers here is: "It's MINE - NO-ONE else has any right to modify it; It's MY ©" etc, etc.
That's actually very few of the plug-in makers...it's mostly the template authors. I myself release all my plugins GNU/GPL but my themes have a license I created.
Quote:One should ask themselves if they can claim copyright to anything here that they do while using MyBB code to create it. As it is in fact, using someone else's code as the basis to create something new. ?
They most certainly can. Copyrighting on themes is mainly limited to the images though. You can't copyright bits like tables and such but it's easy to copyright images (except for gradients which can't be copyrighted) like custom postbits or logos. As for plugins...well imagine you create a really cool custom car part like a hood ornament for a Lexus. You need the car to actually use it but the part itself can be intellectually protected as it's own work.
Quote:You always were a Gentleman, and one of the finer Members of MyBB Community.
I appreciate the compliment and let me return it by saying your work here and your participation has been valuable. Enjoy your days wandering.
The Jackal Wrote:Tell me Lopalong, what have i taken for nothing? I only asked the question...sorry i spoke.
I'm with you, my friend. It seems like a very dumb requirement to me, too! Often, people want to just browse thru message for a month or two before they see something the might want to respond to. Often moderators seem to have this "
I am God" attitude that really pisses people like you and me off.
See ya later,
Ed
Hemi Wrote:People who design themes and understand how the world really is keep going. They've seen reality and accept it. They also chose to move on and keep making themes and not let the very few abusers there are get the best of them.
Hemi, you're being hypocritical. I never pulled a theme because someone else stole it, neither did I ever not publish my website url for fear that someone may "Steal" my ideas.
I do/did read a lot of what other users posted here.
@ Jesse.
Mate, Life's a blueberry and the internet is full of them - Most things don't get me down - but occasionally one must write in the strongest language of what their intentions are, and sometimes it's misinterpreted by others. Anyway what I did was never released under anything but the GPL, but there are those who will take anything and everything; at every opportunity; and pass it off as their own work. And I do really hate that.
enewbold Wrote:I'm with you, my friend. It seems like a very dumb requirement to me, too! Often, people want to just browse thru message for a month or two before they see something the might want to respond to. Often moderators seem to have this "I am God" attitude that really pisses people like you and me off.
That's why I put in place the "Register-1 post" requirement.
And for YOUR interest: Those two Url's are only advertised here at MyBB Community, and so far I have deleted four PORN-MERCHANTS who saw fit to post their Sh*t there.
Furthermore: From all of the users who have signed on, only TWO or maybe three names are recognised as being members of the MyBB Community.
And
YOU'RE Pissed off?
Footnote:
I like Chris Boulton and the effort he has put in here, and in essence for the up-coming release of MyBB 1.4 I may even make some extreme themes for it when it arrives. And if you think that access to those themes for "Genuine" MyBB users will be a lot tougher to get - You're right. I don't have time for scumbags.
Edit: I've decided as of now to put an end to all of the bitchiness and remove the "offending" websites.
FirefoxWhiz to the best of my knowledge has downloaded all of the themes, and you can negotiate with her on if or how she wants to make them available.
I'd also like you to see this, which is about to revolutionise theme-making for phpBB and other forum software; and as I understand will be released as GPL.
Whether or not it can be legally imported or used by MyBB is another issue that I'm not aware of.
http://beta.colorizeit.com/index.php
hemi Wrote:People who design themes and understand how the world really is keep going. They've seen reality and accept it. They also chose to move on and keep making themes and not let the very few abusers there are get the best of them. Are those people really worth the effort to get mad at?
There's not only a "few" abusers, but a good bit of them, that I've encountered. I entirely understand why Lopalong left, so I'm not gonna argue about it.
Quote:FirefoxWhiz to the best of my knowledge has downloaded all of the themes, and you can negotiate with her on if or how she wants to make them available.
Yep, I think I got just about all of them.
FirefoxWiz Wrote:hemi Wrote:People who design themes and understand how the world really is keep going. They've seen reality and accept it. They also chose to move on and keep making themes and not let the very few abusers there are get the best of them. Are those people really worth the effort to get mad at?
There's not only a "few" abusers, but a good bit of them, that I've encountered. I entirely understand why Lopalong left, so I'm not gonna argue about it.
Quote:FirefoxWhiz to the best of my knowledge has downloaded all of the themes, and you can negotiate with her on if or how she wants to make them available.
Yep, I think I got just about all of them.
How is it abusing ANYTHING when people are uploading your themes and displaying them on their sites WITH YOUR COPYRIGHTS AND and links to your sites? Isnt that the intended purpose? What more do you guys honestly want? Sorry but not everyone has the time to stop at every site. Why not enjoy the kudos you do get here? As small as mybb STILL IS in the world none of you all are helping its or your own causes when you all put your themes on your own websites and not here. Can only imagine the number of people that bypass this software because of how empty the theme section/forum looks. GEE thats really helping to get your names etc out there. NOT! The way it sounds to me is that SOME of you all are more intrested in just promoting your own sites then anything else. Perhaps you all need to get your own priorities straight. May help you all as well that if more work was done together between you guys HERE to help build this place up and then maybe perhaps once that is done you all can work on your own sites by getting your names/sites known here. If people honestly like your sites they will come. But to call people abusers here because they dont wanna partake in your forums is overboard and uncalled for. I doubt many will wanna come to your sites after seeing the crap posted in this thread. I would be deleting if i were any of you. Sound like a bunch of spoiled kids. IMHO Not trying to be mean but this is how it is coming across to me as a 38yr man watching some of you all go back and forth while blasting this community.
Yeah i do greatly appreciate all that the themers do but please spare me and the rest of this site the crap about how most people abuse because it couldnt be further from the truth. As long as people are downloading them and showing the credits to the themes i see no issue as that IS SUPPOSED to be the intended purpose. And again i STRESS that this community which your themes are based off of NEEDs to be built up first if any of you all wanna see your own grow. JMHO
Easy there, sir. There's absolutely nothing wrong with us having our own sites for our own themes. If people want our themes, they are more than welcome to stop by and get them. As a matter a fact, they are much easier to maintain if they are in one spot, which I have chosen to be my forum.
As for deleting my posts, I see no need, as far as I'm concerned I have posted no "crap" as you seem to call it, or maybe that wasn't directed at me...
And for calling people abusers, do notice that I never mentioned any particular type of person there. I never said just because they didn't partake of my forums they are abusers. If they don't want to stay at my forums and be active, that's all fine and dandy, I don't have a problem with it. I was speaking of the real abusers, not inactive forum members.
As for me, I am sorry I brought this thread back up if everyone's going to make another argument about it. I simply posted to let Lopalong know I've downloaded just about all of his themes.
FirefoxWiz Wrote:Easy there, sir. There's absolutely nothing wrong with us having our own sites for our own themes. If people want our themes, they are more than welcome to stop by and get them. As a matter a fact, they are much easier to maintain if they are in one spot, which I have chosen to be my forum.
As for deleting my posts, I see no need, as far as I'm concerned I have posted no "crap" as you seem to call it, or maybe that wasn't directed at me...
And for calling people abusers, do notice that I never mentioned any particular type of person there. I never said just because they didn't partake of my forums they are abusers. If they don't want to stay at my forums and be active, that's all fine and dandy, I don't have a problem with it. I was speaking of the real abusers, not inactive forum members.
As for me, I am sorry I brought this thread back up if everyone's going to make another argument about it. I simply posted to let Lopalong know I've downloaded just about all of his themes.
Thats cool. Trust me i understand the frustration. I just dont see how stuff/threads like this helps.
Look at your own response.
Quote:There's not only a "few" abusers, but a good bit of them, that I've encountered. I entirely understand why Lopalong left, so I'm not gonna argue about it.
How do you think that looks to everyone here? I see NOW it wasnt intended that way sence you replied back but that is how it looks. All is good though. Sorry if i seemed harsh.
And again i dont see how keeping all the themes at your place or wherever besides here is helping the cause. THIS PLACE IS TOO SMALL to be doing that. This software needs to make a name for itself first. Basically how it has been done at all the other forum software sites. Trust me you all will get what you want once that is done here first. I promise.
HarryWx Wrote:Thats cool. Trust me i understand the frustration. I just dont see how stuff/threads like this helps.
Look at your own response.
Quote:There's not only a "few" abusers, but a good bit of them, that I've encountered. I entirely understand why Lopalong left, so I'm not gonna argue about it.
How do you think that looks to everyone here? I see NOW it wasnt intended that way sence you replied back but that is how it looks. All is good though. Sorry if i seemed harsh.
And again i dont see how keeping all the themes at your place or wherever besides here is helping the cause. THIS PLACE IS TOO SMALL to be doing that. This software needs to make a name for itself first. Basically how it has been done at all the other forum software sites. Trust me you all will get what you want once that is done here first. I promise.
I see, I didn't mean it that way, but I reckon that's how it came across. No, you weren't harsh.
I reckon I can release my themes here, but I will be linking back to my site for download most likely, as the themes are easier to maintain if they are in one spot.. Makes updating and upgrading easier.
Honestly I don't make themes to advertise. I make them to help the look of the forum software. If people have better themes, sometimes people stick around because it feels welcome and open to them. And for me It's also a learning experience because I need to experiment with CSS more, meh xD.
Mainly the interest is to help my own skills, in addition to others' websites. I feel that one simple acknowledgment at the bottom of the forum will suffice for my efforts of maintaining and creating the theme.
Lopalong, I understand your frustration. I just wish there was something I could do about it. If you decide to part ways with MyBB, then that's your choice. But if you decide to stay and continue to help further along the line, then all the better. We can use all the helping hands we can get to build MyBB even further. Yes there are bumps along the roads and sometimes we have to jump across bridges that have huge crevices, but we'll get there eventually.